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US Debate: Flag wavers or dissenters: Which are more "patriotic?"

The answer? The flag wavers.

Here is why.

First, there is a distinction to be noted: While it is true that some dissenters wave the flag, the term generally applies to conservative people who are generally content with the state of affairs.

With that in mind, we can see that the waving of the flag by such persons is meant symbolically as an expression of support for the status quo.

Does this mean that dissenters wave the flag with animosity toward the US? No, but that is not the relevant element in assessing the comparitive patriotism of the two groups.

The reason the dissenters lose in general on this one has to do with the far stronger presumptive nature of their motives and desires. One must presuppose that the dissent is intended to bring about beneficial change, and that said change is in keeping with American philosophy. Granted, that philosophy, what it is and should be, is subjective, but that does not negate the primary point being made here. The greater civic involvement of the act of dissent over that of flag waving does not refute this. Because the flag waver seeks to maintain while the dissenter seeks to alter, the far more uncertain nature of an individual dissenter's goals and motivations, which might be for the betterment of the nation, even to return it to what it "should" be, makes the logical default on the question of which is more patriotic the flag waver, for his is the more solid of the two.

Are dissenters unpatriotic? No.


  • Patriotism is defined as: Love of and devotion to one's country; love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it. (Websters)Dissenters can love their country and even be devoted to it but they are not always willing to sacrifice their lives for it. A patriotic, flag waver probably will no matter what the cause or outcome is. To me patriotism in that form is just blind faith and in a democratic country, it seems really ironic because they will often be the same people who will undermine the rights of others guaranteed in the Constitutions they hold dear.

    By Blogger The SeaWitch, at 9/26/2005 02:36:00 PM  

  • Granted, there are many flag wavers that would behave is a fascistic manner, and who have, but I am trying to limit the speculative nature of what either type of person would do. Based on the symbolism of their acts, it would appear to me that the flag waver has the far more apparent, less dubious motive. Are some blind? Probably.

    By Blogger Eff, at 9/26/2005 08:27:00 PM  

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